Packing up the car for a road trip sounds like fun, but what happens when it takes an unexpected turn? Literally? This week, the brothers discuss an urban legend in Wisconsin and later, writer and filmmaker Dylan Park shares a personal story with a shocking ending.
Packing up the car for a road trip sounds like fun, but what happens when it takes an unexpected turn? Literally? This week, the brothers discuss an urban legend in Wisconsin and later, writer and filmmaker Dylan Park shares a personal story with a shocking ending.
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[THEME IN: Ghost Brothers Asha Theme]
Dalen Spratt: What is going on everybody!
Juwan Mass: Man, what's happening? We are back, Jack.
Marcus Harvey: And we got another great episode for you guys of Urban Legends with the Ghost Brothers. I am your amazing host, the Marcus Harvey.
Juwan: And I'm Juwan, aka, the paranormal papi, ladies and gentlemen.
Dalen: Hey and last but certainly not least. It is the illustrious.
Marcus: Illustrious!
Dalen: The infamous.
Marcus: Infamous!
Dalen: And just the damn sexy!
Marcus: Ok, I wasn’t going to go that far, but go ahead.
Dalen: Bad boy of paranormal himself.
Marcus: Ba-boom-ba-boom!
Dalen: Ooh, you remixed it. Man, it's Dalen guys and today's legend is about trips. We mean taking a trip with your friends or whoever you may be rolling with and something crazy just goes down.
Marcus: The unknown. The unthinkable. The horror!
Juwan: Yeah. All of that and the why the hell did I even decide to go on this trip?
Dalen: Right. So we gonna talk about the urban legend of the Boy Scout Lane. Juwan, that might be right up your lane.
Marcus: You know that’s him.
Juwan: It might be. It might be.
Dalen: But don't forget, we also have a special guest, Dylan Park.
Marcus: Word.
Dalen: His writing credits include shows like All Rise and 68 Whiskey. He's also a contributing author to the New York Times bestselling book, Occasional Magic and brother is an activist.
Marcus: Standing tall, brother standing tall!
Juwan: Salute!
Dalen: He's sharing a road trip story with us and his story man, let me tell you man. I cannot wait to hear this one. But the question is, what do y'all think of trips? Like road trips for example? Y'all be trippin?
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Dalen: Man, listen, man, I remember one time I called Juwan. It had to be probably about midnight.
Marcus: Ok.
Dalen: And I said Juwan, hey bro, I need you to ride somewhere with me real quick.
Marcus: Real quick.
Dalen: Juwan being the friend that he was.
Marcus: What'd he say?
Dalen: He said, man, Dalen, come get me, bro. I got you.
Juwan: This man had us go to Alabama, bro! This is not real quick, bro!
Dalen: Lemme tell you how many details I left out of the story.
One where we was going. Alabama, three and a half hours away.
Marcus: Okay.
Dalen: Two, why we was going to Alabama. Okay. I had a girl I was trying to meet and she had a friend, so I needed somebody to run interference at three o'clock in the morning.
Marcus: Ain't no take one for the team!
Juwan: This was the most selfish road trip I've ever been a part of.
Dalen: Say, I had the nerve to ask him. Say, man, you gonna drive back, bro?
All right, guys, that story was neither here nor there.
Marcus: No it’s there. It’s definitely there.
[Music in: Ghost Brothers Transition 1]
Dalen: Let's get into the real reason why we here. Now before we get into the actual urban legend, we wanted to remind y'all of a horror movie that you might not even realize is actually about a scary road trip.
Juwan: What movie?
Dalen: Get Out.
Marcus: Oh, definitely.
Juwan: Okay. I can kind of see that. I mean, they was. Wait, what part was about a road trip?
[Music out: Ghost Brothers Transition 1]
Dalen: Bro, see that's where y'all tripping. Y'all don't even remember how the movie went. The movie started out with a road trip. Chris and his girlfriend Rose, remember, they drive to her parents' house for Chris to meet the family. Dude, probably thought, you know, we're going to visit her parents. It's gonna be calm, cool, collective, and then we'll just head back home. Oh no, buddy had a time!
Marcus: It even started off rough.
Dalen: Listen, as soon as he got in the house, it was rough.
Marcus: No, even before the house, the deer. You remember the deer?
Dalen: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Marcus: And it makes you question road trips.
Dalen: Look, it's a clear example of how road trips are the perfect place for a creepy story to happen.
See, that's one thing about Jordan Peele. He clearly knew what was up when he wrote that movie, man.
Juwan: He had something up his sleeve.
[Music in: Ghost Brothers Transition 2]
Dalen: But look though now for our urban legend, our road trip story, it comes from Steven's Point, Wisconsin.
Juwan: Steven's Point? That sounds vaguely familiar and really creepy.
Dalen: Right, right. It's the Urban Legend of Boy Scout Lane.
Marcus: Ooh.
Juwan: That may be why it sounds familiar.
Marcus: Because the Boy Scouts?
Juwan: You know my history with Boy Scouts.
[Music out: Ghost Brothers Transition 2]
Dalen I got a couple questions about the Eagle Scouts. How long did it actually even take you to become an Eagle Scout?
Juwan: Uh, I got it when I was 16.
Dalen: 16?
Juwan: I started at Tiger Cubs. So I guess 5 to 16. What’s that? 11 years?
Dalen: Okay. Okay. All right.
Marcus: That's dedication.
Dalen: Let's say, listen, my dog was committed.
Marcus: That's dedication.
Dalen: Just as committed as this story. Listen, check this out. The urban legend says in the 1950s or the 60s, a group of boy scouts went on a camping trip together. They hopped on a bus headed to an area between Cemetery Road and Little Chicago Road.
But look, they got there and the legend says they were killed. Some say the scoutmaster did it.
Juwan: Mm-hmm.
Marcus: What!
Dalen: Other stories say that the bus driver did it.
Juwan: Mm-hmm.
Dalen: And another one even says that on their way there, the bus crashed and went up in
flames.
Juwan: Mm-hmm.
Dalen: Some accounts even say that they just vanished literally in thin air.
Juwan: Mm-hmm. Listen, there's gotta be a spooky activity going on in that area then, you feel me?
Dalen: Hey man, people reported feeling like someone was watching them and seeing children's hand prints just appear on the back of cars. They even heard children laughing. Bro, listen to me, man. This area is not a campsite now. It's just an isolated road and reports say it's got its name cause these boys went missing right then and there.
[Music in: Ghost Brothers Transition 1]
Juwan: Listen, it's one thing, there's one thing about these little campsites. We used to do camping back in the summer when I was like teenager. But they would always tell you these stories to like, to keep you from like wandering off, you know what I'm saying? Just to kinda like, they want to instill fear just so you don't try to go off by yourself.
Dalen: Juwan, how many badges did your ass have?
Juwan: Quite a few.
Dalen: Did you?
Juwan: Yeah, a hundred percent.
Dalen: Say, would y'all all go visit this area like at night for paranormal activity?
[Music: Ghost Brothers Ad Break 3]
Juwan: I feel like, I feel like we're committed to locations for paranormal activity at this point.
Dalen: Yeah. It ain't too many places we won't go?
Juwan: Yeah.
Marcus: Nowhere, we won’t go.
Juwan: Okay. Dylan Park is going to share his own road trip story soon. But first, you know what time it is. It’s time to take a quick break.
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[Music: Ghost Brothers Transition 1]
Marcus: All right guys, we are back and we are here with the man himself, Dylan Park.
Dalen: Dylan Dylan. Man, what is happening, man? What's going on with you man?
Dylan Park: Not much, not much. Just chilling today. You know, we’re on strike so I have plenty of free time.
Juwan: Let's kind of get started, bro. How do you feel about the paranormal? You know, we investigate and go to haunted locations, but what about you? Are you a believer in paranormal? Like you believe in ghosts?
Dylan: You know, I grew up in the Bay Area. So, we had like the, the haunted locations and stuff, you know we had like the devil's door and there was like an abandoned asylum at the top of the hill in San Jose that we would go to that was like all creepy and stuff like that, but I never really believed in ghosts.
And I say that's past tense because I had a couple stories - I only have two ghost stories. Um, one of them's kind of crazy, uh, I can't even believe I'm saying this on a podcast, but there was a girl who wanted to have a threesome with a ghost. I've never left a house so fast in my life. Yeah. So, uh.
Marcus: That’s how you’re getting introduced into the world, baby.
Dalen: Wait, wait, wait, wait, we gonna stop this train right here cause I got questions.
Juwan: I got a lot of 'em.
Dalen: So, this alleged threesome that she wanted, was it with you and a ghost that she wanted it with?
Dylan: Yeah. Yeah.
Dalen: Wow, Was it, ok.
Marcus: Oh, snap!
Dylan: Well see what had happened was I’m over at homegirl's house -
Juwan: Anybody start off with, see what had happened was they trying to figure out what part they want to tell you and what part they wanna omit. Go ahead, man.
Dylan: So we're at the crib and we're drinking a bottle of wine, watching Netflix, doing all that, And she says, “Um, do you mind if my friend joins?” And I was like, “Oh, word like that?”
I was like, “I don't mind actually.”
Marcus: He said, jackpot!
Dylan: And I said, “Is she here right now? Is she in like the next room?” And she was like, “Oh, no, no, no, it, it's a he.”
So, I said, “I never really done that before.” I'm trying to pump the brakes a little bit. So she says, “He just likes to watch.” was like, “Is he your roommate?”
And then she's like, oh, he's been living in this house for, you know, like she said something crazy, like 60 years. And I was like -
Dalen: Oh, it's your granddaddy!
Dylan: Yeah. I was like, what is happening right now! And basically we get down to the nitty gritty. I was like, “All right, who is this dude? Like, what's going on?”
And she was just like, “Oh, he's a spirit that was here when I moved in.” And I was like, “Oh, like, a ghost?” And she was like, “Yeah, he's actually in the room right now.” And I was like, “Are you like fucking with me right now? Cause like, I can't, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is kind of scaring me.” So anyways, though, make a long story short, I skipped out of there.
Juwan: How far, you said you had gotten far into Netflix and chill.
Dylan: I just wasn't trying to, you know, like the possession and all that stuff. I don't know how these, these ghosts work.
Dalen: We are making jokes, but, in real life, that is a real thing.
Marcus: No, that's real, bro. Literally, people be getting down like no, people be getting down with the ghost, the ghost sexting. You know what I'm saying? But no real quick man. I know you sound like a very, very well traveled man. Have you ever had some crazy, crazy, crazy like road trips before?
Dylan: So again, this is what actually messed me up and got me believing in ghosts and spirits and all that stuff. So, back in the day, I was telling you, I grew up in the Bay Area. My parents moved me out of the hood.
They moved me to this small little town called Los Gatos.
Actually, let me give you the background of this area. So, Santa Cruz, California was called the murder capital of the world in the 1970s, because in the seventies it produced more serial killers than any other place on the planet. Right?
So you had John Lindley Frazier, who murdered a family, you had Herbert William Mullin. He was born on the anniversary of the 1906 earthquake. So he had this weird thing with earthquakes and he thought he was like bad luck.
So he started murdering people because he thought, you know, if he didn't, the earthquake was gonna end the world, right?
So growing up as a teenager, I was kind of fascinated with that.
Marcus: How old were you about this time?
Dylan: I was like right outta high school. So I was probably like 17, 18, when this one went down.
Marcus: Ok.
Dylan: I had just moved outta my parents' house.
And one of the homies had a cabin in Tahoe, so it became a thing where like every other weekend we would take a road trip to go snowboarding just hanging out, partying in the snow, just chilling, right? So one weekend, everyone's going up, but me and the homie Chris we were working, we had work that night, so we said, we'll meet you up at the cabin after we get off work.
But that wasn't until like midnight or something like that. Make a long story, medium short. We hop in the Jeep after work and in between Los Gatos and Tahoe, there's just stretches of farmland.
Me and Chris, we are driving up to this mountain and we're driving along this stretch of farmland and halfway the gaslight comes on.
So I pull over to get gas out in this town in the middle of nowhere. You know, go in there, fill up, get snacks, whatever, whatever. I come back out to the eep and Chris is sitting in the passenger seat and he's looking like he just did something bad. He looks like he just stole something and this is the type of kid that would do shit like that.
So I said, all right, let's get outta here. So we're tearing down the road and for like an hour or two hours, Chris is sitting in the passenger seat saying, “Hey, you know, we should pull over in that cornfield right there. Let's go off-roading.” And I was like, “No man, I just wanna get to the cabin.”
And for like an hour straight, he's like, “Oh no, pull over right there, pull over.” He's like, “No dude, it'll be fun. Like just go out in the cornfield. Go out in the cornfield.” And I was like, “Bro, no man! What are you talking about? Absolutely not. Like please stop!” You know what I'm saying? He's just harassing me this whole time.
And so I say, “Chris, I will give you $20 to shut the F up for the rest of the ride. I'll give you $20.” I reached down to get my wallet and my wallet's not there because I left it back at the gas station. So now I'm pissed and we gotta make a U-turn and head an hour back.
And the entire way, dude is just like, “Oh, you know, let's like pull over there, pull up, you know, pull out into the cornfield, let's go in the cornfield.” He kept saying it.
Dylan: But like, he was like, the class clown, he was like a joker, but he was just being weird. So we get back to the gas station. I walk in the gas station and, the attendants standing there, he’s got my wallet on the counter and I was like, “Oh, like thank you so much.” Go over and grab it. I turn around.
Chris is standing there and he punches me as hard as he can across the face. And I'm like, “Yo! What is your problem, dude?” And he looks at me and he says, “Don't ever do that again, bro. Don't ever do that again. Like I was standing here for two hours by myself, I thought you ditched me!” Blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, “What are you talking about, dude?” And I look at the gas station attendant, and I'm like, “Yo, like what is this guy talking about?” He's like, “Yeah, we've been standing here talking this entire time.” So I'm looking at Chris like -
Marcus: Wait, hold a second -
Juwan: Was just in the car with me talking about pull over in the cornfields.
Marcus: So you’re rolling with a doppelganger?
Juwan: Yeah.
Dylan: Right. So I'm, like, “No, bro, like you were literally in the car with me and you kept telling me to pull over into this cornfield. You kept saying that you wanted to go offroading, and you wanted to take this other path.” And he was like, “Dude, like you're tripping.”
And I was like, “I swear on my mama. What are you talking about?” So he got back in the car. The entire drive to this cabin we're like arguing. I'm like, “Bro, like I would not make this up.” And he's mad at me, I'm mad at him, you know? And we get to the cabin and dudes are like, “What's wrong with you two?”
So we tell 'em this story and they're like, “What the hell?” Because they know we're not smart enough to make something up like that. So that was like probably the most scared I've ever been.
Juwan: I'm trying to figure - so Chris didn’t like bother to call you if he felt like he had been standing there for two hours?
Dalen: That's a valid question.
Dylan: Well, here's the thing. I wanna say this is almost 20 years ago now. You know what I'm saying? This is like 15, 20 years ago. And you know, cell phones weren't what they were back then, and we were out in the middle of nowhere.
Juwan: Yeah. Yeah.
Dylan: You know, we didn't have like FaceTime or anything like that.
Dalen: When I hear stories like that, I always go to the what if, like what would have happened -
Juwan: If you went to the cornfield.
Dalen: Would've went into the cornfield with whatever was in your car.
Dylan: Right. Right. that's what people keep asking me. You know, like what would've happened because like on any other day I might have.
Marcus: You like, yeah. All right, man, let's go. Let’s do it man!
Juwan: If you just had a little bit more time to spare it and you hadn't left your wallet, you probably would've been like, you know what? We can, we can get to check out this cornfield.
Juwan: That, that story you shared with us, Dylan, um, you did a tweet about it?
Dylan: Yeah.
Juwan: And it went viral. Right?
Dylan: Yeah. A little bit. A little bit.
Juwan: Man, what can you tell us? What were some of the reactions to that? Like what were people saying?
Dylan: I just had a lot of folks who were like, that's actually like the scariest shit I've ever heard in my life. That's terrifying. And again, a lot of people were saying, what would've happened if you went into the cornfields? Right? So, it got a lot of attention.
But, you know, I didn't think it was gonna blow up like that.
Marcus: You made a short film about like this whole experience called, They Too. What was it like for you to return to this creepy memory?
Dylan: I cast my boy, Jonathan Lipnicki, you know, from Jerry Maguire. He's one of my best homies. He played me actually, but, you know, it was everyone who I told this story was enamored by it. So, we went and shot, in a little town called Williams, Arizona. It’s on Route 66. And again, it all goes back to my fascination with Santa Cruz and that area and the folklore. As a kid growing up. It always just like really scared me.
So when I wrote this film, I found that the Ohlone people, the indigenous people to the Santa Cruz Mountains, they have the story of a skin walker, right? It's like a doppelganger and it transforms into whatever to hunt its prey. And that was very much what I was feeling, right? So, these folks who were inhabiting this mountainside that I had this experience on thousands of years ago, we're talking about this, it really makes you wonder, right?
Marcus: That's deep, man, because shoot skinwalkers and that's one of those things where you're like, if you do know that that's real, it's like, wow, that could happen. Ugh.
Dylan: Right, right.
Dalen: Dylan, man. With you being from The Bay man. What other like stories did you grow up hearing or like, you know what I'm saying? Like what from that area was real notable back in the day?
Dylan: Damn. Uh, yeah, I can't remember the road, but there was this road that wound up into the mountains. Oh, it was Lake Avenue, I think it was called and at the top of the mountain, there was this abandoned like insane asylum.
And there was like this door next to it, like on a rock that they called the Devil's Door, right? But it didn't make sense because like what's behind this door, cuz it's literally built into the side of a mountain. So, there were all these rumors and all these stories about how the people in the asylum went crazy and killed a bunch of doctors and blah, blah, blah, and, and all sorts of stuff like that.
Juwan: Uh, did you, have you ever heard of the Winchester Mansion?
Dylan: I grew up on Winchester Avenue right down the street from there.
Juwan: Yo. Hey, do y'all remember when we investigated the Winchester Mystery House?
Marcus: How could I forget? Because Dalen would've had us trapped in there until today.
Dalen: So you telling me you wouldn't wanna stay in San Jose, California?
Marcus: Okay. Now that's, we did have
Juwan: In a home that was built by a widow in the 19th century.
I don't know, bro.
Dylan: I'm glad you brought that up cause I totally would've forgot, but my girlfriend, actually my ex-wife, she was a tour guide there. So I would go there all the time.
Dylan: That place is wild, man. So I basically grew up, running around those hallways and like, knowing all the lore and the history of that place.
Juwan: Did you ever get lost? Like was it one of those things where you like -
Dylan: I honestly, like, again, my girlfriend was a tour guide there, so I wouldn't go anywhere without her. Cause like, I wasn't trying to get lost in there by myself cause there's like trap doors and doors that led to nowhere and doors that led down elevator shafts and stairs that went into ceilings and stuff like that. So, she wanted me to work there too, and I was like, absolutely not. Like I'm not trying to be around here. But yeah, the history behind that place is crazy.
Juwan: For sure.
Marcus: Well, we've asked all of our guests, Dylan, man, if you could be a ghost, would you be one? And why or why not?
Dylan: You know what? Absolutely.
Damn. Uh, you know, I would probably just, I don't know, man, would I stay in my own crib, you know, and just haunt the ghosts that we're living in my crib. I think that makes the most sense.
Juwan: So look, we kind of touched on everything. We've talked about ghosts, we've talked about skinwalkers. How do you feel about aliens?
Dylan: I got some alien stories too.
I was in the military. So I was in the Air Force actually and before I went to Iraq, we went out to this Air Force base in Nevada called Indian Springs and it's right outside of Area 51.
The perimeter shares a fence. And we would be doing like night training and we would look up in the sky and there would be these like green orbs that were just like, like going up and down.
And we were always looking at each other like, this is just probably just like some military technology we don't know about yet, right? Like, cuz this would make too much sense to be aliens and Area 51 and blah, blah, blah. But I always think about that so yeah, I mean I don't know if I believe in aliens, but I don't not believe in aliens.
Juwan: Yeah. Man, that's interesting.
Juwan: Dylan man. Thanks so much for the interview. We appreciate the time, we appreciate the stories. before you go, tell the people where we can find you, man.
And what you got going on next.
Dylan: My memoir, Roadside, is dropping on Chicago Review press next year so, you might be seeing that.
Juwan: Dope. What's your, uh, social media handles?
Dylan: I am @DYLLYP, that's D-Y-L-L-Y-P at Twitter or on Twitter I should say.
Marcus: That was definitely your rap name. I remember that. Dylly, dropping next October.
Juwan: Dilly. Dilly.
Dylan: Exactly.
Marcus: Dil Dili A Dli P.
Dalen: Well, Dylan man, we appreciate your time, man. Thank you so much for spending it with us. We appreciate you.
Dylan: No, I appreciate you having me. Thanks guys.
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Marcus: Hey, fellas, I'm just gonna be like honest with you. If Dalen’s doppelganger was sitting in the car with me, I'm kicking you out right where you stand.
Dalen: Wow. So, but how -
Marcus: But it's your doppelganger. It ain't you.
Juwan: How do you know that?
Dalen: Exactly.
Marcus: Because I know Dalen’s attitude, so this Dalen would be nice.
Dalen: My doppelgangers nice?
Marcus: Your doppelgangers nice. You're the, you've are -
Juwan: Would've got in there and put his seatbelt on immediately.
Marcus: Oh wait, something's wrong. Something's wrong. We're not listening to trap music right now.
Dalen: Dopp Dopp Dopper Doppelganger Dalen would offer gas money.
Marcus: Woo. He might, well, Doppelganger Dalen would say, you know, what do you guys wanna listen to?
Dalen: Right.
Marcus: I got some Barry Manilow, you know, so yeah, man. But, uh, regardless of that, regardless of that, I know we're talking about your playlist, but let's talk about some other crazy things.
Marcus: All right, guys, again, great interview Dylan Park. But now it's time for our game. Spooky Road Trip Trivia. I'm gonna work on that title. Are you guys ready?
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Dalen: I'm ready.
Marcus: What about you Juwan?
Dalen: Locked in.
Juwan: Like hot spaghetti, baby.
Dalen: Ooh!
Marcus: Hot spaghetti. Okay. Well, let's see what we're doing. Chef Boy-ar-Juwan.
Okay, question one. What's the name of the popular haunted highway that runs from Chicago to Los Angeles?
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Juwan: Man, I know this one.
Marcus: What's that?
Juwan: That's Route 66.
Marcus: Ok.
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Juwan: I knew that growing up there was a major highway and they were like, man, you know this road right here takes you all the way to the West coast? And I was like, oh, for real? But I ain't never find out, but -
Dalen: Mm. I didn't know that one. I'm from the South.
Marcus: Okay, so you know about 85?
Dalen: I know. 85, 75 and 20.
Juwan: And 10.
Marcus: Juwan, you got it, of course. Route 66.
All right. Question two. Question two. What's the name of the haunted road in Texas where horse-drawn carriages frequent in the early 1800s before the Civil War? Some say they've seen the spirit of a woman wandering this road and spirits of small children, too. What is the name of this road?
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Dalen: Uh, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with Backyard Boogie.
Marcus: Backyard. Okay. That's definitely wrong.
[SFX: wrong answer sfx]
Dalen: Hey man,I've never heard of that story. And I lived in Texas.
Marcus: Oh, okay. Well I'm putting you on game. What about you, Juwan?
Juwan: I don't know, I think it's called Slippery Slope.
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Dalen: Mm-hmm.
Marcus: That's definitely not it either.
Juwan: Nope
Marcus: Okay. You guys are totally off.
Juwan: I have no idea.
Marcus: You will know now. From now on you will because it's called -
Juwan: What’s it called?
Marcus: It’s called StageCoach Road.
Dalen: That's stupid.
Marcus: No, you're stupid poopy head.
Juwan: I guess it makes sense. Horse-drawn carriage. Okay.
Marcus: Okay. All right. All right. All right. Here's the last one.
Juwan: Make it a little easier, please?
Marcus: I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to. What is the name of the road in California that apparently is haunted by a miner who was killed for his gold? A lot of people went to this area during the California gold rush and stuff back in the mid 1800s. What is this road's name?
[SFX: countdown clock; game show]
Dalen: Wilshire Boulevard?
[SFX: wrong answer sfx]
Marcus: Oh my gosh. Why do you keep answering these wrong.
Dalen: It’s not Wilshire? Lacienega?
Marcus: No!
Juwan: No, Gold Rush Road.
[SFX: wrong answer sfx]
Marcus: Go - At least you could have said Gold Rush Road.
Dalen: Was that right?
Marcus: No, it wasn't. But it sounded like -
Juwan: Why would he wanna say that?
Marcus: Because it sounded like you were at least listening to the question. You know what I'm saying?
Juwan: What's it called?
Marcus: Perspectives road.
Juwan: Why would it? Okay. All right.
Dalen: What? That's stupid.
Juwan: You feel like you can name roads better?
Dalen: Yeah. Y'all need to start letting me name roads.
Marcus: What you gonna name it then?
Dalen: Ass Highway.
Marcus: This is why we don't give you any microphones.
Dalen: Any responsibilities?
Marcus: No responsibilities. We don't even let you bring the luggage in. Alright, guys. All right. All right. Next up we have a listener submission.
Marcus: This submission comes from a fellow legender. You like that guys, right?
Dalen: I don’t.
Marcus: I know you love it. Bianca in New York, break it down for us, love.
Bianca: Hi, Ghost Brothers. My name is Bianca and I'm excited to share about my encounter with a paranormal at the Lizzie Borden house. This happened last October, 2022, the day after I investigated with you gentlemen in Savannah and to say I had quite the experience is me saying the least.
During one of the E.V.P sessions in the dining room, I started to feel very, very sick. I'm talking nausea, dizziness, head spinning, room spinning. I need to get from this seat right now, or it's not gonna end well for anyone that's in here. So I excused myself from the session and made my way out into the living room. And after a couple of minutes I started to feel some relief, but I felt a great sense of unease.
Now, you know what they say, once you start to feel something, take that camera out and record, and that's exactly what I did. Granted, I didn't see anything with my naked eyes, but when I got back to my hotel later on that evening, and was reviewing through my footage and my photos, I definitely saw what I was feeling.
As my camera was panned facing the direction of the kitchen, you see a orb clear as day, fly out the kitchen into my direction, and about a second later, you see a silhouette walk past the mirror. Now I know for a fact that I was the only, only person out there cuz like I had mentioned, I had exited the dining room because I started to feel sick.
I also found out that the chair I was sitting in during the EVP session was the chair of Andrew Borden's and several women have reported that Andrew Borden will make himself known, to women 100%. So do I think that was Andrew Borden making himself known to me? Absolutely. Do I also think that me having a photoshoot on the couch that he was axed to death to helped my situation, definitely not.
Juwan: Wow.
Dalen: Lemme tell you why that's crazy.
Marcus: That's from Bianca in New York, son.
Dalen: That's wild, because the fact that they even have this murder couch there and you can sit on it.
Marcus: So, wait, do y'all remember that story?
Dalen: What you talking about? The Borden house?
Marcus: Yeah.
Juwan: Lizzie Borden.
Dalen: Lizzie Borden, bro. I think that story per the movie that I watched, they said that he was like lying on the couch and like she came in with an ax.
Juwan: Right, right, right. But like I feel like allegedly she killed the family.
Dalen: Yeah. Like think about that. Like that's, that's morbid as hell. Like what -
Marcus: They did get it cleaned though.
Dalen: You think? You think so?
Marcus: I mean, at least they put some Febreeze on it.
Dalen: Hey man, listen, you gotta Febreeze that thing. They gotta get that one that they put above it that they can plug in that just spray every 36 seconds.
Juwan: I just feel like we learned on Haunted Houseguest, you just can't really trust everybody's couch.
Dalen: That you cannot.
Juwan: You can't just sit down on everybody's couch. Dalen learned that at Allen house.
Dalen: Oh my gosh, bro. I did.
Juwan: And he asked the spirit to show up.
Dalen: And she sat down right next, like I literally felt the cushion sink in.
Marcus: So she had, she had a wagon?
Juwan: She had a bbl. She had a bbl.
Dalen: Said, she was dragging a wagon. I am not going to say she was dragging a wagon, but that thing -
Juwan: That was pun intended. I like what you did there.
Dalen: You see what I did?
Juwan: Yeah.
Dalen: You see what I did there?
Juwan: I'm not gonna say she was dragging a wagon, but -
Dalen: But I definitely felt the indentation of her sitting down, bro. That was my, like my, one of my first, you know, big wow moments into the paranormal.
Marcus: So what, you and Bianca both kind of using that tactic.
Because y'all both get sick. Typically, you get sick a lot of times during investigations.
Dalen: No, I feel like, I feel like you taking a shot at my immune system or something.
Marcus: No, I'm just, I'm just saying it is very weak. It's a very weak immune system. I'm very, I'm very, very -
Dalen: I need some more elderberry juice.
Marcus: Very concerned about you, I want you to do some sea moss. I want you to start drinking some vitamin Cs, whatever.
Dalen: Alkaline water.
Juwan: You gotta get your ginger shots.
Marcus: So I really need you to get that together, but -
Juwan: Your alkalinity needs to go up.
Marcus: Exactly, Juwan.
Juwan: Shout out to Bianca. Appreciate that. That was a good story.
Marcus: Thank you, Bianca.
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Dalen: That's all we have for you legends today. What! Are we really still calling them legends?
Marcus: That's what we're calling them!
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Dalen: Until next time, see you later!
Juwan: Peace, love and paranormal.
Marcus: Alright, see y'all next week. Y'all know where to come.
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