Witches and sex magick. Yes, you read right. In this episode, the guys dig into some of the most infamous witch legends and talk to author, columnist and modern day witch Gabriela Herstik. She talks about what it's like to practice witchcraft, what it means to be a witch in today's world and how sex magick can play a role in the bedroom.
Witches and sex magick. Yes, you read right. In this episode, the guys dig into some of the most infamous witch legends and talk to author, columnist and modern day witch Gabriela Herstik. She talks about what it's like to practice witchcraft, what it means to be a witch in today's world and how sex magick can play a role in the bedroom.
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[00:00:00] Marcus: Hello. Hello. hello what's happening. Y'all this is the Marcus. Harvey And this is urban, ledgers, Urban legend put the ghosts bros
[00:00:12] Juwan: brought to you by discovery plus, and you know who I am. I'm Joanne mass known as the pair of normal poppy.
[00:00:18] Dalen: And don't you forget about the bad boy himself?
Daylen spread. Listen, man, we are your favorite ghost hunting paranormal investigators. And I know you missed us.
[00:00:29] Juwan: Oh, you know, they have, of course they have, we've been on their mind all day.
[00:00:35] Marcus: we had a great show coming up this one, guess what we cover in y'all witches. You scared. Daylen
[00:00:43] Dalen: Hell no, I ain't
[00:00:44] Marcus: okay. Let me say it again. which is nice gear. Daylen
[00:00:49] Dalen: breath.
Nah, man, listen, I'm a fan of witches. It was like, there's so much out there on witches. Everything from like, you know, your little Disney stories, the infamous Hocus Pocus movie. Everybody watches that every year. And don't forget about the Salem witch trials
Do you know that there's modern day witches?
Like, I mean today, like I got to talk to this modern day witch, Gabriela Herstick. And when I tell you she mixes a little bit of magic with a little bit of sex.
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Gabriela CLIP[00:01:15] Speaker 2: I do a lot of writing and performances and write rituals and lead rituals that are really rooted in magic and witchcraft and the divine feminine, as well as like sex magic. I have a handful of books out.And I started practicing witchcraft when I was 12 or 13 in the Blue Ridge Mountains in North Carolina. And it has been a central part of my life since then. [00:01:56][41.1]
[00:02:06] Dalen: Hey, listen, bro. It's two things I knew about in life.
[00:02:10] Juwan: Okay. One
[00:02:12] Dalen: in this man.
[00:02:13] Marcus: I've never seen you do a card game. effort.
[00:02:16] Dalen: and you ain't never seen me have sex either. So what does that tell you?
[00:02:19] Marcus: It's still magic.
[00:02:21] Dalen: It's still magical baby,
[00:02:22] Juwan: And
[00:02:23] Dalen: But nah, man, it was dope is that which is actually covered up.
[00:02:26] Juwan: lot.
[00:02:27] Dalen: And Gabriela covers so much from a witch's perspective and she has a new book that's coming out. Right. And it's called sacred sex, the magic and path of the divine erotic. Oh, you heard it right, man. It's a whole lot of magical or radical sexiest stuff. She actually gave me some advice for me and Stacy.
[00:03:09] Dalen: We gonna talk about this a lot later on, man. But, you know, seriously, Gabriela has been carving out a lot of space for like, just, I felt like the improvement in the, in like the, the upward movement of witches, bro. Like it's so much deeper than what television makes it out to be or movies or cartoons. talks about the history she was telling me about like who other witches look up to in the community and like how open the witchy world is now than what it used to be like, how more accepted people are or how more accepting people are of them. Like it was, oh, no, rose. It was really, really interesting. It definitely shed a different hue of light.
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[00:03:58] Juwan: man. I look forward to, it
[00:04:03] Juwan: What's your latest ghostly, paranormal or witchy story? Send us your voice memo@ghostbrotherspodcast.com. That's Ghostbread this podcast.
Dalen: But here we have a great story from Christine Murphy in North Carolina.
Christine Murphy_North Carolina.mp4 [00:00:01]: My name is Christine Murphy, and I had an encounter with a hag. I was probably about 11 years old and I could not fall asleep. I was in the bottom bunk of mine in my sister's bed, and all of a sudden this burnt up looking witch with a long black dress came around the bed and was trying to stick her fingers down my throat. I fought her off and ran to my parents room, and of course, they did not believe me. And years later, I was telling my sister about the story and she told me in the same room. She fell asleep on the floor and she woke up to a little girl with long black hair, rubbing her fingers and the inside of her mouth. Super creepy. [00:00:01][0.0]
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Juwan Mass: Wow creepy. Thank you!
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[00:04:16] Dalen: All right. Now, listen, this is a huge topic, but our fascination with witches and witchcraft dates back hundreds and hundreds of years.
[00:04:23] Juwan: Yeah, for sure. Even indigenous communities believed in something known as like skin walkers or
[00:04:30] Marcus: needing that blue sheet
[00:04:31] Juwan: Come from the DNA culture and the Navajo people
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[00:04:35] Dalen: you see, and then Navajo culture, a skin Walker is a . Bad, which she can possess or disguise themselves as guess what?
[00:04:45] Marcus: what?
[00:04:46] Dalen: Uh, animal. But you know, like believe in that, which is can turn into animals, man. It's, it's, it's something that the Navajo people literally keep to themselves. Like if you're not a part of the Navajo culture, they really don't just talk to you and give you that sort of infant.
[00:05:00] Marcus: And they talked to
[00:05:01] Dalen: you
[00:05:02] Marcus: you're a part of that community.
[00:05:04] Juwan: Yeah, my bad got real serious. Like, listen,
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[00:05:07] Marcus: . Also, we do know a lot about the American colonials cause you know, Their views on witchcraft is like real starts, you know, they, they putting people in the stone, you know what I'm saying? In the heat. And you do remember that we did an episode when we did the hunted Salem live. Y'all remember that
[00:05:22] Dalen: Yeah, man, that was actually my first time out
[00:05:24] Marcus: with your foot and with your feet and dirt,
[00:05:26] Dalen: Putting my feet in dead dirt, but no, you know, what's crazy about being up there. Like just the history of Salem, like in May, 1647, you know, there was this person named Alice Young who was actually from Windsor, Connecticut.
[00:05:40] Juwan: dang?
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[00:05:41] Dalen: Alice was the first person executed for witchcraft in America.
[00:05:46] Marcus: Okay,
[00:05:46] Dalen: See, Alice was one of the dozens of people that were accused, put one of over 10 people that were hanged for witchcraft and Connecticut.
[00:05:56] Juwan: Okay. See, but what do you think they was so scared of bro?
[00:06:01] Dalen: progress, man?
Marcus: I would beg to differ. They were, they were more so. In a position to where they looked at, which is as a real threat to their existence. You know what I'm saying?
[00:06:02] Juwan: Well, actually… History, professor Emerson baker from Salem state university said they threatened to wipe out everything you believe in. If they could, they would overthrow your government, overturn your faith and destroy oh, society.
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[00:06:32] Juwan: Yeah, that seems like a lot. I mean, you can see that in movies like Hocus Pocus, where the Sanderson sisters are resurrected 300 years after their deaths to wreck. Havoc. I mean havoc on trick or treat hymns of Salem, Massachusetts. Oh, that's correct.
[00:06:49] Marcus: Well, Hey, you remember that movie Eves Bayou?
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[00:06:52] Juwan: you?
[00:06:52] Dalen: Yeah,
[00:06:53] Marcus: joint was dope, man. It was talking about like, it was sitting like 1960s. Y'all remember that. And it was like about in the like south Louisiana where they was having to hit them some mosquitoes off, you know what I'm saying? That was Samuel Jackson killed.
[00:07:05] Dalen: That joke they did.
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[00:07:07] Marcus: Sam and killed that thing. You know what I'm saying?
[00:07:09] Dalen: that Jurnee Smolette?
[00:07:10] Marcus: Jay, that was journey. That was definitely journey too. And I remember that joint was like, man, that was a really, really deep movie. And it was really talking about like the local voodoo practitioner looking like for revenge. It was a crazy stuff, man. I suggest everybody who hasn't seen ease by you go check that joint out.
[00:07:27] Juwan: Oh, and we have Superior it's about an American woman who travels to Germany to enroll in a dance academy only to discover the ballet school is a front for a sinister Colvin.
[00:07:40] Marcus: why was she taking her ass Germany?
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[00:07:43] Juwan: It's a lot.
[00:07:43] Dalen: She could, it wasn't New York.
[00:07:45] Marcus: And the creepy witches movie is based on a book by British writer, Roald Dahl. That is so creepy.
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Marcus: Remember that movie back when the witches turned the kids into mice, yo they turn that little turn them joins into mice. They were in the little cake. Y'all remember that they tried to stump him, bro. You know what? You know what made it so scary for me? Cause they would've got my little fat button. Oh, they, oh, my little man, my little chunky 12 year old self. I would've definitely been a wreck because oh. They would have caught me with the pastries. They would have caught me with them pastries.
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[00:08:19] Dalen: but let me ask you this. Have you guys ever met a witch before?
[00:08:22] Juwan: Yo, we actually interviewed a couple of witches, on, uh, ghost brothers On a lights out episode
[00:08:28] Dalen: and we did, we did, we did. We, we actually,
[00:08:32] Juwan: and then I think we've met a few witches at some of our uh, paranormal events.
[00:08:36] Dalen: my gosh. A lot of them, a lot of them.
[00:08:39] Juwan: It's cool
[00:08:39] Dalen: though. Like, you know,
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[00:08:40] Juwan: it's really, this whole paranormal journey is like kind of opened our eyes up and I can't just speak for everybody, but I feel like we've had conversations about like how like, it's really kind of broadened my perspective on like what a lot of these things were like voodoo witchcraft.
[00:08:53] Dalen: I feel like television, Hollywood paints a very, very awkward picture for all of these things mean for pretty much everything. Paranormal man, from ghosts to aliens, to witches, to voodoo, to this, just like everything that's put in media, I feel like it's just for entertainment. It's like putting gas and tins on everything. And then you meet people who hunt NGOs, and then there are three black guys from Atlanta. You know what I mean? Are you, you know, you meet somebody.
[00:09:22] Juwan: That
[00:09:22] Dalen: Hunt's Bigfoot and it's just a father and son in West Virginia. You know what I mean? Like it's just regular people doing regular stuff, bro. But make sure you guys come back after the break because listen, you don't want to miss this interview with witch and author, Gabriela, Hersticker.
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[00:10:02] Dalen: All right, welcome back listeners. I'm joined by Gabriella Hursti. She's an author, a columnist, and a witch based in Los Angeles. She's written several books. Now I will tell you all of them. So listen carefully. One of them was inner witch, a modern guy to the ancient.
[00:10:22] Juwan: craft.
[00:10:23] Dalen: Also, she has be witching, the elements, uh, guides, empowering yourself through earth, air, fire, water, and spirit.
Oh, we can't forget about embody your magic, a guided journal for the modern witch. Oh, and don't you think she done yet? Maybe she has another one called sacred six, the magic and path of the divine erotic. And that was coming out real. You see, Gabrielle explores all the basics of witchcraft in an accessible and modern way.
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Well, thank you for coming in and welcome. Welcome, man. We appreciate you.
[00:11:05] Juwan: time.
[00:11:06] Dalen: I'm gonna get straight to, and I need to know how did you get into witchcraft? Like you explore so much, like, please tell me about it.
[00:11:16] Gabriela: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited. You guys are hilarious. And I grew up in Atlanta, so I'm like excited to just have that
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[00:11:23] Dalen: thank you first and foremost, for even just taking the time out of your day to speak with me, like I'm really, really excited about this conversation, especially coming off the week that I do.
So my first question is I'm from the south too, right?
, So being in the south like that, how does like witchcraft even like fall into your lap at 12 years old?
[00:11:34] Gabriela: my family or my, my dad is a rabbi in the reform sect of Judaism, which is a more, a lot more modern and liberal kind of expression of Judaism. , so I was raised like very aware spiritually, but I discovered witchcraft through like a series of coincidences. I had gone to Salem when I was nine on Halloween, which I later learned was, , the, which is new year. And I like saw a ritual. I had a moment where one of the wax figures in the witchcraft museum, like told me what witchcraft was. , and a few years later I discovered witchcraft through a deck of Oracle cards, which are like cards that have different messages and art on them that you use for like semination and self inquiry. so I got a deck of Oracle cards. Later Lee was led to a book about witchcraft. When I was, I think I was like 12, and had this full circle moment about, about it. Just in general, like a lot of these kind of forms of Christianity, like even in Catholicism, there's so much ritual and magic involved. Like you're, you know what I mean?Like you're literally casting out demons and you're blessing these bodies. And there's a lot of overlaps. Like that's something that you see, , when traditions like these kind of like indigenous traditions or like traditions, like from like Africa are taken to the United States through things like, you know, the slave trade, like they're hidden under layers of Christianity and Catholicism as a way to, you know, Veil the true expression of what the spiritual practice is by using things like saints and prayers.
, but yeah, my experience coming to witchcraft is from a Jewish lens, which is pretty different, but, , I think now with. Social media, especially like it's so much more easy to connect with people who are into this kind of stuff. Like you can find communities, but, , you know, even as a 12 year old, like it was before I had the internet and like some like forums, but, , it's definitely isolating, you know, I feel like just being any kind of other in the south is isolating.
Um, and that experience was definitely like a lot, but it shaped me and I feel very grateful.
[00:14:03] Dalen: How, what does a day in the life of a witch really look like? like, do you guys cast bales? Do you really, have you ever seen something magical through that. lens of witchcraft? Does that make sense?
[00:14:27] Gabriela: Yeah, absolutely. So I'll what I'll do is I'll start by like defining or sharing my definition of what witchcraft is, cause that might help, you know, just make more sense. , so witchcraft, isn't one thing. It's not a religion. It is a spiritual path. Like the way that I see it is it's a spiritual path. That recognizes and honors the importance of cycles and connection. So you work alongside the earth, very intimately in witchcraft. It's an earth based spiritual practice. And you do that by honoring the turning of the seasons, the cycles of the sun and moon and how that is reflected in the self. And within that. With energy, which you know, is neither created nor destroyed it's everything. Everything is, uh, you know, we know that if you zoom in on an Adam or on something that looks solid, it's actually just vibration. And what which is do is they use energy and intention and action to create change on the physical realm.
So. You don't need anything to be a witch. You don't need any candles. You don't need any taro cards, but because we're human and it's hard for us to focus on more than one thing at a time like having these tools can act as an anchor for us.
, for myself, I have a daily spiritual practice that I do every single day, no matter what that includes things like. Banishing negative energy. I'm cleansing myself praying to the goddesses that I'm devoted to setting an intention. , you know, like gratitude that for me, that's part of it. we do cast spells and we do practice rituals, which are.
Forms and ceremonies of magic that separate what we're doing from the everyday. So like, you know, like we have a lot of rituals in our day-to-day life anyway, brushing your teeth, or like doing your skincare routine or anything you do repetitively. But the difference with witchcraft is that we do these rituals as a way to sacred.
Whatever experience we're calling in. So taking a bath when paired with an intention of healing and with an intention of softening, , you know, especially when you add things like salt and maybe some herbs like lavender, a lavender oil, like that turns into a ritual. So it's not that which are out here, like living two separate lives between the spell stuff and the spell of work and the ritual and the day to day.
Magic, folk magic, witchcraft. These practices are an every culture around the world. There's some kind of spiritual tradition with everything you see in Christianity, Kabbalah and ancient Judaism. You see it in Sufi is on, you see it in like, you know, like the different, like African traditions where they're using like fetishes.
It's something that connects us all, but it's also something that the Catholic church in the Western world has really tried to, um, disconnect us. So it's a reclamation for sure.
[00:18:28] Dalen: Let me ask you this. Is there a way for you to practice , and do everything that you say and still be. Like a Christian or still practice.
Like, can you walk that line Of both? Can you be a Buddhist Which, you know what I mean? Like, how does that work?
[00:18:48] Gabriela: so for me, for myself, my witchcraft is connected to my work and my devotion to goddesses. But that's a very personal thing. You can be a witch and absolutely be a Christian. least for me, I would imagine there would be some kind of like healing that needs to work out just because, you know, Christians love to stamp out anybody That's not a Christian. So there's, I think it could be a really, really healing to incorporate both those practices, but a lot of, witches work within that system and practice folk magic. A lot of the saints of the Catholic church specifically were old goddess. , we're all goddesses and gods.
So it's like, there's definitely like connections and because it's just a way it's, you know, like witchcraft at the end of the day is a framework. , it's a blueprint. So yeah, I definitely think that you can be really like, like you can be a Jewish, you can be a Christian, which you can be an atheist switch.
[00:20:09] Dalen: What's the one thing that pisses you off the most about people like in their ideas about witches in witchcraft? Like, what's the one thing you're like, man, you know what fuck you.
[00:20:21] Gabriela: , that they're honestly, like, You know, people have the ideas about like, which is being like baby eaters and stuff. And I'm like, as a Jew, I'm like, I also am like, I've just heard that before. I'm not really doesn't affect me anymore. I'm
like, whatever. , so when the people are very prescriptive and they're like, this is how you do it, and this is the only way to do it. And if you're not doing it, you're doing it wrong and you're not actually witch That pisses me off because our world needs more people who are empowered and confident and connected to themselves. And it has to fit the person. Like your relationship with spirituality is going to be based on your experiences and how you lived and how you grew up and your family and what like is in your heart.
That's a magic ingredient. Soanybody who tells you have to do something a certain way to be valid in general, I'm just suspicious of, so I bring that with me tonight. Witchcraft
[00:22:29] Dalen: No. no.that makes sense. So, okay. You've made witchcraft to me during this conversation seemed. To me, you shared it in a very great light, but I have to ask, is there a dark side to witchcraft? Like, are there people out here really doing some, like some crazy stuff? You know what I mean? Like what, how dark can it get?
[00:22:56] Gabriela: It's like anything. I mean, I feel like that's kind of the world that we live in where it's like that duality of like, create like really powerful and like good. And also like negative is it's always going to co-exist and like one of the things that I also K this goes back to the last question. What really pisses me off is when people. Say white magic versus black magic, because energy is just energy and saying that something is white is good and something that is black is evil and it's also racially charged and racist and not accurate.
It's true. It's just bullshit. Energy is energy. So yeah, most witches the thing is like, If you want to be able to heal, you need to be able to hex, you know, like if you want to be able to like, really like both sides of the spectrum exist. And,I'm definitely not above, like, I believe in doing magic that like might be considered like , which is like banishing or curses. I'm like fucking curse rapists. They fucking deserve it. Or like pedophile, like, you know, like I'm all about using magic to empower and like traditionally, , historically.
Magic has been used to support people who are in positions of not being empowered of being disempowered. ,
[00:24:08] Dalen: Is there any magic for somebody to owes you
[00:24:10] Gabriela: Oh, yeah, you could. And that's the thing like that's like you don't, that's not, I wouldn't even consider that negative cause that's just, you know, justice, you could do
a spell on, right? Like you could do a spell to like receive the abundance that you deserve, or you could do a spell to like call back what you're owed without having to get somebody else's energy like involved.
You know, I think a big part of magic is this idea and concept of free will
and you don't really know.
[00:24:36] Dalen: that.
[00:24:37] Gabriela: Yeah, free. Well, we all have that. We all have the power of like deciding for ourselves. And I really don't fuck most of the time with doing any kind of magic, that's going to impede on somebody else's free.
I mean, there's magic for everything. There's magic for everything, but it's like Mo 90%, 95% of the witches you meet are not going to. Doing negative magic necessarily because it's so much stronger to like, you know, like an example is like, if you want, if you have your eyes set on the lover and you want them to, like you, you could a, either do a love spell for, on them, which is kind of fucking with their free will. And if they don't like you at all, nothing's going to happen. There has to be kind of a seed or something. Water to make that affection grow. But if you were to cast a spell of self-love on yourself, so you could embody the frequency of love and become love, and you're naturally going to attract whatever is meant for you. Because a lot of the time we think we know what we want and we don't, and that's also kind of when the universe comes in and like laughs at us and gives us our lessons or reworks the spells. So it's what we needed and not what we thought. [00:26:13] Dalen: So why like the dark, I guess, stigma attached to witchcraft.
[00:26:26] Gabriela: I think that part of it is Hollywood.
, I think part of it is the fact that witchcraft has inherently both the people, most of the people that were killed for being witches were women. And a lot of the people who practice witchcraft are women. And unfortunately, a lot of things that women enjoy or like are stigmatized or just like denounced.
, I, I think part of it too, is that these. Witchcraft. Operates in the in-between, you know, it's in the liminal, it's something that exists neither here, nor there. It has a level and layer of secrecy to it for a reason because it hasn't been necessarily safe to practice. And I think a lot of the time people are scared of what they can understand and people are scared of the unknown.
[00:27:44] Dalen: right, right. So what's next for
you? Like I know you're accomplished in yeah. Writing and then everything like what's next.
[00:27:53] Gabriela: Well, I have a book coming out called sacred sex, the magic and path of the divine or erotic. And it's all about like sex magic and working with sexual energy. The book is really, , a guide in working with your sexuality as a central point of your spirituality. So that is coming. And then I have a couple more projects coming out next year. Like I mentioned, I lead monthly full moon circles and. Right. Ritual guides. And I'm always, , I lead, you know, some stuff on Patrion.
I have a sex magic discussion circle I lead and hopefully we'll be doing some events for the book, but I keep all of that on my social media.
[00:28:46] Dalen: So, listen, you said sex magic now? Me and my wife's anniversary is coming up. She thinking I'm going to take her to dinner. We're going to do all the little spy, all that good stuff. Is there any type of nasty spell that I kind of just do what I gotta do? I gotta sprinkle some, I got to say some champ. What I got to do, what can I do to make night? The most memorable night
[00:29:12] Gabriela: Okay, well, you know, your wife better than I do. So do all of the things that you'd normally do and really what sets magic is it's incorporating intention into sex or masturbation. So in this case, like you are sharing your anniversary, it would, I mean, I would think this is really sweet. I'm single. If like I had as many, he did this, I would think it's really sweet. Like, you know, like when it comes times, like do the deed and get down and dirty. Creating first off, like thinking of how you can create an environment that really touches all the senses. So, you know, like getting, like making the room, like maybe like red or pink, or like dimming the lights, lighting some incense, like having some, you know, like one or champagne or whatever juice afternoon tea.
Create an audit. Yeah. Creating the fantasy, creating the environment. And then before you like start, you know, doing whatever, like taking the moment to set the intention, like this act of like sex, like what, what do we want to in call in? Do we want to call in, you know, like more abundance for this year? Do we want to call in a closer connection?
and you can like take a second to talk about that and like speak it out loud
So like you set the intention, you raise the energy through the act of sex and then at the peak of the energy. and you can do that. You know, few people come separately. Keep the intention in mind for both partners at those times, but just holding that intention in your heart at like the peak of the energy.
And then as you're just melted together in the afterglow, like continuing to just be in the vibration of whatever you're calling in and just, especially cause it's your end anniversary, just sharing, the words in the heart that is, I honestly any kind of.
Beautiful like holiday ceremony, anniversary. Like it's already such a potent time where you're doing that kind of reflection. Not like, I feel like it's it's going to be so powerful to just take the extra step and like ritualize the process and like have that moment of intention setting that you can carry through the, the actual like night or day.
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[00:31:39] Dalen: Got you. See I’m not going to let her listen to this episode because then she going to be like, you just got that from Gabriella. You ain't think of that yourself. I got you. Oh, Stacy i got something for yo ass. Yeah, Thank you Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your time and coming on
GAME/QUIZ
[00:32:00] Juwan: Yo, that's interesting. They don't like, she's great.
[00:32:06] Marcus: Very interesting
[00:32:07] Dalen: to stay in the least. I mean,
[00:32:09] Marcus: It's cool that she's being inspired by Salem. You know, if we're appears to be as open-minded to that approach, learner kind of choose her own path. You know, she's doing some things in that, that, which space too.
[00:32:20] Juwan: yeah. I actually like how she makes it a little bit more accessible and modern. It's a nice touch.
[00:32:26] Dalen: And that's what she does with her books, man. It's like, she wants people to take away, you know, like the perception and the fear that they have of witches and just understand that, you know, which is, are people too.
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[00:32:39] Juwan: Okay, well, listen. Yeah, that's going to be a hard act to follow, but Hey, it's time for a game.
Y'all ready to have some fun. It's the favorite part of the show where we get to test your skills? Look, I want to hear about your, which knowledge the both of you. Y'all ready.
[00:32:57] Marcus: I, ain't got a lot of which knowledge, but I think I'm going to against data, so I should be good.
[00:33:02] Dalen: Well, first of all,
[00:33:03] Marcus: Wait, I'm just, Hey, I'm
[00:33:05] Dalen: any of us will be a witchy. It will be me.
[00:33:07] Marcus: Def. okay. You know what? You Might have an advantage of, but oh, me on this one.
[00:33:11] Juwan: Look, both of you chill out. Let's get to the game. You already,
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how did the legend come about that? Which has have black cats. If you can tell me where it came from.
[00:33:20] Dalen: from
[00:33:21] Juwan: And tell me the century. You'll get extra points.
[00:33:24] Dalen: Okay.
[00:33:26] Marcus: Ireland 17th century.
[00:33:28] Dalen: Ooh, Ooh,
[00:33:30] Juwan: said Ireland 17th century.
[00:33:34] Dalen: Daylin.
[00:33:35] Juwan: Yup.
[00:33:36] Dalen: I'm going to go. Black cats in witches, go back like four flats on a Cadillac and a chick would a bro strap. So I'm going to say, I'm going to go with the Northern hemisphere. In the 15th century.
[00:33:53] Juwan: So
[00:33:53] Marcus: the Northern hemisphere
[00:33:54] Juwan: and Northern
[00:33:55] Marcus: said, all right, wait, hold on a second. No, No. See what I'm saying?
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[00:34:01] Dalen: of you guys were wrong,
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[00:34:04] Juwan: both of you guys were wrong. It's the 13th century when official church document called Vox in Roma was issued by the Pope Gregory the ninth.
[00:34:14] Dalen: And where's it at
[00:34:15] Juwan: Rome, Italy,
[00:34:22] Juwan: but in this document that Pope Gregory the ninth row, it said black cats were declared incarnation of Satan. All right, guys. Here we go. Next question.
[00:34:33] Dalen: When
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[00:34:34] Juwan: did the Salem witch trials happen? These are multiple points. If you get this year, it's one point the decade. Even I'll give you a point the month. I'll give you another point. Yep. I'm just throwing out points today guys. Cause I know you probably won’t get it.
[00:34:49] Dalen: Salem witch trials happened in the, it was definitely
[00:34:54] Marcus: gonna say 16, I'm gonna say 16 hundreds.
[00:34:57] Dalen: It was definitely
[00:34:57] Marcus: I'm gonna say the 16 hundreds. Definitely before women's rights but 16 hundreds. I feel like that might be it.
[00:35:04] Dalen: 16. Oh one by,
[00:35:06] Marcus: oh man.
[00:35:07] Juwan: Okay.
[00:35:07] Marcus: I'm gonna say 1676.
[00:35:09] Dalen: No, we can't go back. 6, 16 0 1,
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[00:35:10] Juwan: Oh one is wrong.
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[00:35:12] Marcus: However,
[00:35:14] Juwan: It was in 1692. So I got to give you guys each a point for the century.
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[00:35:20] Marcus: I'm going to say
[00:35:20] Dalen: mate,
[00:35:22] Juwan: Okay.
[00:35:23] Marcus: yep. Keeping it hot in
[00:35:24] Dalen: I'm going to say may one, may one. It's
[00:35:29] Juwan: not a month, bro.
[00:35:32] Dalen: Oh man.
[00:35:33] Juwan: I'm going to give y'all a hint. Okay. I'm gonna give y'all a hint. Okay. Somebody you both are very close. Has a birthday in the month,
[00:35:42] Marcus: October,
[00:35:43] Dalen: November.
[00:35:43] Juwan: You're both wrong.
[00:35:45] Juwan: The month is February.
[00:35:46] Dalen: Okay. All right. I won next. I should
[00:35:49] Juwan: to be alright. got a point. Marcus got a point, David.
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[00:35:55] Dalen: got
[00:35:56] Marcus: Half a point,
[00:35:57] Dalen: Nah.
[00:35:58] Juwan: I guess Daylan has half a point
[00:36:00] Marcus: and that just brings them out of the negative.
[00:36:02] Dalen: What's the next question?
[00:36:03] Juwan: Next question, man.
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Why do witches? Where the color black.
[00:36:08] Dalen: Because it's so slimming
[00:36:10] Marcus: no one can ever know how much money
[00:36:12] Juwan: Okay. Final answers.
[00:36:16] Dalen: Yup.
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[00:36:18] Juwan: See the color black is most often associated with protection and can be used to ward off any negative vibes that may be thrown your way.
[00:36:27] Dalen: So we were both right?
[00:36:30] Juwan: Both of you were a right guys, last question. This is going to determine who is ultimately the winner of the game.
[00:36:37] Dalen: Okay.
[00:36:37] Juwan: So you get a point for each correct
[00:36:39] Dalen: Let's go.
[00:36:40] Juwan: All Right. Marcus list. As many films with witches in them as you can.
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[00:35:52] Marcus: Let me think
[00:35:54] Juwan: We're going to give him three seconds. No, we're going to give him 10 seconds.
[00:35:58] Marcus: 'cause you know what, so I'm dope. Is that me going first means that they can't, he can't say anything that I say after that now. So I'm going to say the word. Hocus Pocus. Cause you already said that I'm gonna say into the woods,
[00:36:14] Dalen: 7,
[00:36:16] Marcus: I would say practical magic, which is
[00:36:19] Dalen: You got three.
[00:36:21] Juwan: Marcus got which
[00:36:22] Dalen: let me see the websites. You read enough of
[00:36:24] Juwan: into the woods.
[00:36:25] Dalen: here.
[00:36:26] Juwan: Practical magic.
[00:36:28] Marcus: That's it for?
[00:36:29] Juwan: I know you got, okay. So you said which Hocus Pocus into the woods? Practical magic,
[00:36:34] Marcus: And witches. Cause those are two different things. No, no. There's two, there's a witch. And then there's a witches.
[00:36:41] Juwan: You didn't say both of
[00:36:42] Marcus: I did. I said which, and then I said witches later on.
[00:36:45] Juwan: Okay.
[00:36:46] Marcus: Thank you. See how they be trying to get
[00:36:47] Juwan: the judge,
[00:36:48] Marcus: They don't want
[00:36:48] Juwan: on the scorecard, it didn't go. All right. Excuse me, sir.
[00:36:52] Marcus: Alright, here you go.
[00:36:53] Juwan: You got
[00:36:53] Marcus: Look.
[00:36:55] Juwan: So did get five.
[00:36:59] Dalen: This
[00:36:59] Juwan: he
[00:36:59] Marcus: Yeah. You at the free throw line, buddy. Oh yeah. Twinkle fingers. And let
[00:37:04] Juwan: you need to get.
[00:37:04] Marcus: I, I got the magic on you right now. You ain't going to get it, boy. Yeah. Yeah. Stop giving them time.
[00:37:12] Juwan: I'm not, I, we haven't started yet, but he is thinking, um, you need, you need one more point to win. Any one more point then Marcus to win. Can you give us six and 10? You ready?
[00:37:37] Marcus: you believe?
[00:37:39] Dalen: uh, with robots, uh,
[00:37:41] Juwan: the
[00:37:41] Marcus: weed,
[00:37:42] Dalen: uh, Rumpelstiltskin,uh, uh, Cinderella had a witch that motherfucker, uh,
[00:37:56] Juwan: Oh, man. I had the wizard of Oz, the weeds, Rumpelstiltskin Cinderella.
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Juwan:Marcus. I have to declare you the winner
[00:38:05] Dalen: read it off his phone. And he used the same word twice. He can't say which in which is
[00:38:10] Juwan: those are two different movies,
[00:38:11] Dalen: but no,
[00:38:13] Juwan: one is, well, those are the two different movies,
[00:38:14] Marcus: which what'd you say about 1600.
[00:38:16] Juwan: Would you say.
Uh, and the winner is the marcus is Harvey
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[00:38:23] Dalen: That's fair. That's fair. But I still have half a point more than you. Yes, I
[00:38:28] Juwan: he does not. No, you don't bro.
[00:38:30] Dalen: Who does it?
[00:38:31] Juwan: you went into this a half a point up Marcus got five.
[00:37:45] Marcus: Well, thank you for my win. I really appreciate it guys. I just like, thank God. All the witches in the back.
I appreciate y'all,
you know, doing your thing. Harvey out. Yeah.
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[00:37:57] Dalen: All right. So thank you so much for joining us again for another amazing episode. And remember, we need you to subscribe. And if you don't remember the name of this podcast, it's urban legends with the ghosts.
[00:38:10] Juwan: Thank you guys so much for listening. We will see you next week and I'm telling you, don't meet us there. Beat us there. Love you.
[00:38:17] Marcus: us some five stars.
CREDITS
Urban Legends with the Ghost Brothers is produced by Neon Hum Media for Discovery +.
For Discovery +, our executive producer is Marissa Lucy.
At Neon Hum, our Executive Producer is Shara Morris.
Our lead producer is Chrystal Genesis
Our associate producer is Chloe Chaobal (CHO-BULL).
Our production manager is Samantha Allison.
Music by Asha Iwanowicz (IVAN-OH-VEECH).
Concept by Odelia (OH-DELL-YUH) Rubin and Shara (SHARE-UH) Morris.
Our engineers are Mark Bush, Max Unruh (UnROO) and Laila Williams
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